This week VPR News is bringing you a special series of reports looking at the conditions of Vermont’s roads. We continue the discussion with Transportation Secretary Neale Lunderville and the director of the National University Transportation Center at UVM, Lisa Aultman-Hall. VPR’s Jane Lindholm talks with them about everything from the state’s deepest ruts and potholes, to the legislature’s attempt to deal with a chronically under-funded transportation infrastructure.