An estimated 4,500 Vermont children per year experience the trauma of having a parent in prison. Advocates say children "orphaned" by the criminal justice system are more vulnerable to anxiety, depression, rage and addiction, and may be more likely to commit crimes. Tara Graham is coordinator of the Kids-A-Part program of the Children’s Aid Society of Vermont. Burlington Representative Jason Lorber sits on the House Institutions and Corrections Committee. They spoke with VPR’s Jane Lindholm about how advocates and lawmakers hoping to reverse that cycle.